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	<title>Comments on: Ayn Rand</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2008/01/26/ayn-rand/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Atlas Shrugged is a novel that frees and liberates individuals by informing them that ethics/morals can be objectified and are not derived from a &quot;magical hand in heaven&quot; with mythological commandments and judgments.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m a pretty staunch atheist, and don&#039;t believe that any kind of moral laws are passed down from a higher power.  In this much at least, we&#039;re in agreement.  I don&#039;t even mind Rand&#039;s emphasis on personal freedoms.  I agree with many libertarian points of view on privacy rights, for example.

Where I vehemently disagree with Rand is when she asserts that hands-off capitalism is the best way to ensure personal happiness.  Under her philosophy, selfishness is a virtue, and altruism is a foolish endeavour.  I&#039;d argue that it&#039;s the only thing that makes society tolerable.

&lt;em&gt;If you think &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; is shallow and/or trite, . . .&lt;/em&gt;

I never said it was shallow - the philosophical side is quite in-depth.  In fact, most of my problem with Atlas Shrugged is that the plot was completely superficial to the book.  It would have been easier for Rand to write another position paper outlining her philosophies.  Instead, she tried to tack a story on top to create a grand allegory and failed miserably.  The characters are one-dimensional, the plot is boring, and the dialogue unrealistic, almost to the point of being funny.

&lt;em&gt;I really have to question what has happened to you personally in your life that has made you the way you are&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ve moved past juvenile philosophies that don&#039;t stand up to real-world application.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Atlas Shrugged is a novel that frees and liberates individuals by informing them that ethics/morals can be objectified and are not derived from a &#8220;magical hand in heaven&#8221; with mythological commandments and judgments.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m a pretty staunch atheist, and don&#8217;t believe that any kind of moral laws are passed down from a higher power.  In this much at least, we&#8217;re in agreement.  I don&#8217;t even mind Rand&#8217;s emphasis on personal freedoms.  I agree with many libertarian points of view on privacy rights, for example.</p>
<p>Where I vehemently disagree with Rand is when she asserts that hands-off capitalism is the best way to ensure personal happiness.  Under her philosophy, selfishness is a virtue, and altruism is a foolish endeavour.  I&#8217;d argue that it&#8217;s the only thing that makes society tolerable.</p>
<p><em>If you think &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221; is shallow and/or trite, . . .</em></p>
<p>I never said it was shallow &#8211; the philosophical side is quite in-depth.  In fact, most of my problem with Atlas Shrugged is that the plot was completely superficial to the book.  It would have been easier for Rand to write another position paper outlining her philosophies.  Instead, she tried to tack a story on top to create a grand allegory and failed miserably.  The characters are one-dimensional, the plot is boring, and the dialogue unrealistic, almost to the point of being funny.</p>
<p><em>I really have to question what has happened to you personally in your life that has made you the way you are</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve moved past juvenile philosophies that don&#8217;t stand up to real-world application.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2008/01/26/ayn-rand/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally, totally disagree with your conclusions. Atlas Shrugged is a novel that frees and liberates individuals by informing them that ethics/morals can be objectified and are not derived from a &quot;magical hand in heaven&quot; with mythological commandments and judgments.
The novel inspired me the first time I read it and continues to do so.  If you think &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; is shallow and/or trite, I really have to question what has happened to you personally in your life that has made you the way you are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally, totally disagree with your conclusions. Atlas Shrugged is a novel that frees and liberates individuals by informing them that ethics/morals can be objectified and are not derived from a &#8220;magical hand in heaven&#8221; with mythological commandments and judgments.<br />
The novel inspired me the first time I read it and continues to do so.  If you think &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221; is shallow and/or trite, I really have to question what has happened to you personally in your life that has made you the way you are.</p>
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		<title>By: suvine.com</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2008/01/26/ayn-rand/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Atlas Shrugged, it is such a great powerful book. Sorry you didn&#039;t like it
:(
Suvine.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Atlas Shrugged, it is such a great powerful book. Sorry you didn&#8217;t like it<br />
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Suvine.com</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2008/01/26/ayn-rand/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Rand&#039;s arguments are attractive to certain people.  Typically, these people are white males from the middle class who are intelligent and angry because they&#039;re discovering that the American dream is bullshit.  Their hard work and intellect have only gotten them into middle management, and they want more.

Ayn Rand&#039;s philosophy supposes that if you removed all those pesky government barriers, that these young men could succeed in becoming successful wealthy businessmen.  It gives them a convenient scapegoat for their frustration with the current system.  Unfortunately, Rand&#039;s fairytales are just that.  I&#039;ll point to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/67206/Inside-the-Ron-Paul-Spam-Botnet#1937652&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt; as one example of the dangers of letting the &quot;invisble hand&quot; take care of all our problems.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Rand&#8217;s arguments are attractive to certain people.  Typically, these people are white males from the middle class who are intelligent and angry because they&#8217;re discovering that the American dream is bullshit.  Their hard work and intellect have only gotten them into middle management, and they want more.</p>
<p>Ayn Rand&#8217;s philosophy supposes that if you removed all those pesky government barriers, that these young men could succeed in becoming successful wealthy businessmen.  It gives them a convenient scapegoat for their frustration with the current system.  Unfortunately, Rand&#8217;s fairytales are just that.  I&#8217;ll point to <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/67206/Inside-the-Ron-Paul-Spam-Botnet#1937652" rel="nofollow">this comment</a> as one example of the dangers of letting the &#8220;invisble hand&#8221; take care of all our problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Favela Cranshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Favela Cranshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think is the reason for Rand&#039;s popularity?  Were you able to finish the book?
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