Comments on: Religious defamation http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2009/03/27/religious-defamation/ politics, tech, humor, and science since 2002 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:09:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kimberly http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2009/03/27/religious-defamation/comment-page-1/#comment-679 Kimberly Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:32:47 +0000 http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/?p=1696#comment-679 You said it perfectly: "the UN should be focusing on oppressive regimes and the freedom to practice any religion" I realize these are two unrelated matters, (since the 'human rights violation' issue in regard to my own religion is related to conscientious objection of military service, and how some member nations are not adhearing to previous UN resolutions already passed) this clip shows just one example of the persecution going on in Korea for so long, -which continues despite their obligation to the UN... http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/5263723221/62734221.htm -Since the entire premise of the UN is to peacefully unite nations, it doesn't seem reasonable to keep innocent people imprisoned and waiting for justice (who are members of a religion that is peaceful and refuses to go to war, or kill others), while giving priority to a rather frivolous resolution, instead of enforcing established resolutions which are not being upheld. You said it perfectly: “the UN should be focusing on oppressive regimes and the freedom to practice any religion”

I realize these are two unrelated matters, (since the ‘human rights violation’ issue in regard to my own religion is related to conscientious objection of military service, and how some member nations are not adhearing to previous UN resolutions already passed)
this clip shows just one example of the persecution going on in Korea for so long, -which continues despite their obligation to the UN…
http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/5263723221/62734221.htm

-Since the entire premise of the UN is to peacefully unite nations, it doesn’t seem reasonable to keep innocent people imprisoned and waiting for justice (who are members of a religion that is peaceful and refuses to go to war, or kill others), while giving priority to a rather frivolous resolution, instead of enforcing established resolutions which are not being upheld.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2009/03/27/religious-defamation/comment-page-1/#comment-678 Chris Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:39:30 +0000 http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/?p=1696#comment-678 I'm a little confused as to what you're saying Kimberly. If you're saying that the UN should be focusing on oppressive regimes and the freedom to practice any religion, then I agree completely. If you're being sarcastic, and claiming that your colleagues being jailed has anything to do with this resolution, then you're confused. What this resolution does is makes it a crime against humanity to speak badly of another religion. This makes it *easier* for oppressive regimes to silence critics and throw people like your Armenian colleagues in jail. After all, if they dared to question the one true religion (whichever one that may happen to be), then they've committed a human rights violation. Surely, that puts them in the same class of people as genocidal warlords... To reiterate: No one should ever be imprisoned for their religious beliefs, but this resolution tries to make criticizing another religion a crime. That's not freedom at all. I’m a little confused as to what you’re saying Kimberly. If you’re saying that the UN should be focusing on oppressive regimes and the freedom to practice any religion, then I agree completely.

If you’re being sarcastic, and claiming that your colleagues being jailed has anything to do with this resolution, then you’re confused.

What this resolution does is makes it a crime against humanity to speak badly of another religion. This makes it *easier* for oppressive regimes to silence critics and throw people like your Armenian colleagues in jail. After all, if they dared to question the one true religion (whichever one that may happen to be), then they’ve committed a human rights violation. Surely, that puts them in the same class of people as genocidal warlords…

To reiterate: No one should ever be imprisoned for their religious beliefs, but this resolution tries to make criticizing another religion a crime. That’s not freedom at all.

]]> By: Kimberly http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2009/03/27/religious-defamation/comment-page-1/#comment-676 Kimberly Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:06:02 +0000 http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/?p=1696#comment-676 Sorry to just randomly drop a post...I accidently clicked on your name from a page I was reading over at the Sciguy blog, and that UN/religious defamation resolution caught my eye. I'm just totally aghast by what I read, since members of my religion are still sitting in an Armenian prison right now, -where they've been for the past 2+ years...as you can see here: http://www.jw-media.org/frames/090201.htm ...but apparently the UN is too preoccupied with 'more important' human rights violations to do anything about it. I'm sorry...but I just had to vent. Sorry to just randomly drop a post…I accidently clicked on your name from a page I was reading over at the Sciguy blog, and that UN/religious defamation resolution caught my eye.

I’m just totally aghast by what I read, since members of my religion are still sitting in an Armenian prison right now, -where they’ve been for the past 2+ years…as you can see here: http://www.jw-media.org/frames/090201.htm
…but apparently the UN is too preoccupied with ‘more important’ human rights violations to do anything about it.

I’m sorry…but I just had to vent.

]]> By: Ben B http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2009/03/27/religious-defamation/comment-page-1/#comment-673 Ben B Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:52 +0000 http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/?p=1696#comment-673 Nor does religion have a good reputation to begin with, for that matter :) Nor does religion have a good reputation to begin with, for that matter :)

]]> By: Ben B http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2009/03/27/religious-defamation/comment-page-1/#comment-672 Ben B Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:08 +0000 http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/?p=1696#comment-672 dictionary.com: "defamation - def⋅a⋅ma⋅tion    /ˌdɛfəˈmeɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [def-uh-mey-shuhn] Show IPA –noun the act of defaming; false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel; calumny: She sued the magazine for defamation of character." As you pointed out, clearly we have a solution. Showing religion to be false isn't unjustified, nor is it slander or libel :D dictionary.com:
“defamation -
def⋅a⋅ma⋅tion
   /ˌdɛfəˈmeɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [def-uh-mey-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun
the act of defaming; false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel; calumny: She sued the magazine for defamation of character.”

As you pointed out, clearly we have a solution. Showing religion to be false isn’t unjustified, nor is it slander or libel :D

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