All Part of the Plan

In response to the recent Amish school shooting one of the town's resident's had this to say_

"We think it was God's plan, and we're going to have to pick up the pieces and keep going," he [Sam Stoltzfus, 63, an Amish woodworker] said. "A funeral to us is a much more important thing than the day of birth because we believe in the hereafter. The children are better off than their survivors."

PZ Meyers responds_

No, no they're not, and this old kook should know better. If his claim were true, you'd have to argue that the murderer did a good thing for those children, and that parents ought to strangle their kids as soon as they're born.

I also have to point out that if God gets praised when good things happen, shouldn't he also get blamed for the bad things that happen? Where's the consistency?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again_ This "God" fellow has the greatest job ever - he gets all of the credit and none of the blame.


Written by FreshBoy -

I am a devout Atheist, and I agree with all your arguments about the inconsistencies inherent the Christian faith. But cut these people some slack. Grief is a difficult thing to manage, no matter what you believe. The Amish are trying to square these senseless acts of violence with their beliefs, as we all do. I may not agree with the belief that these deaths were part of some Divine plan, but I understand the need to seek solace somewhere. It's easy to point out logical flaws in Christian arguments... but you'd have to be pretty damn inhuman not to understand the most basic human need to try to make sense of the senseless in the aftermath of tragedy. We Atheists have it easy--we can rant and rave, and call for the killer's head on a stick. There's something to be said for people who can turn the other cheek (which I'll argue takes a lot more discipline and self-control than the aforementioned ranting and raving) no matter how misguided you think their reasoning is. I'll further argue that the Amish in many ways have a societal model from which we can learn something. All they really want is to be left alone. The Amish don't push their religious convictions on anyone. Even better, they use technology only to the extent that it aids their lives without imposing significant spillover costs on others--virtually no waste and little pollution--in short, it's technological efficiency at it's finest. Too often, we take the benefits of our advanced technology for granted without ever being forced to realize the true costs--because we don't pay those costs. Who are we to say that our way of life is better? And if the Amish way of life is based on their faith, then there must be something that we liberal Atheists are missing.

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